Hey all. For some reason I entered this conversation anticipating it would be a kind of straightforward, relatively surface affair. I don’t know what the heck I was thinking. I clearly hadn’t done my homework, and I was so wrong. Dean is this beautifully deep person who kind of saturated me with wave after wave of profound, considered questions where I needed to slow down and shift my state of being just to meet and do any kind of justice. This conversation happened late last year in November 2019 and going back I noticed I made some now even more relevant comments about crises and their actual and psychological fallouts at about the 40m mark (you can cut straight to that section here). Anyways it is more personal than usual, but what the heck, I really appreciated Dean’s questions and I share it here with you to make of what you will :-). If you also like Dean’s style I see he has a bunch of (no-doubt equally considered) interviews including many focused on aspects of the Coronavirus crisis on his youtube channel The Poetry of Predicament.